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North American Union, Part 4: The Canadians

Although the vast majority of our own government and mainstream media persist in denying, and actually ridiculing, the strong evidence that a North American Union is in the future of our nation, the issue is quite openly, and seriously, being discussed, opposed, and promoted in Canada. Our neighbors to the north have been much more persistent in looking at the ramifications of the ties between NAFTA , the North American SuperCorridor Coalition (NASCO), the North American Competitiveness Council (NACC), and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) toward the ultimate development of that North American Union.

Particularly since the Montebello (Canada) meeting of the SPP between Bush, Harper, and Calderon, large numbers of the members of the opposition parties, as well as an enormous number of Canadian citizens all across the country, have taken an active stand against the policies and the conspiratorial nature of the negotiations potentially leading to the establishment of a NAU in which they have absolutely no desire to participate. Unfortunately, it is also leading to a good bit of anti-American (U.S.) sentiment among people with whom we have gotten on exceptionally well for the greater part of our history.

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2284.shtml

“It won’t work. For one thing, the Canadian people will never accept that Canada become a colony of the United States, and the current minority government of Stephen Harper could pay dearly politically if it continues pushing in that direction. Canadians do not want their armed forces and their foreign policy to be de facto merged with those of imperial America. Moreover, they do not want their natural resources to be placed under U.S. control and exploited nearly completely by large American corporations, which have little regard for Canada’s sovereignty and little concern for the welfare of Canadians. Also, they do not want the Canadian dollar ditched in favor of a less and less attractive U.S. dollar, as some have suggested.”


During and since the SPP meeting held in Canada in 2007 there have been protests the length and breadth of Canada…

Calgary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8QW9KNlmn8

Vancouver:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ00rEmX3nw

Edmonton:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnhrxu5latM&feature=related

Toronto:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seQeIPKCdlo&feature=related

Winnipeg:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9_M6tu0XgY

…and numerous other locations throughout the country organized by various groups, political parties, and activists sharing one common fear…loss of Canadian sovereignty. The Canadians have become VERY proactive.

Some of the major players in the “anti-NAU” coalition in Canada includes the Council of Canadians, the Canadian Action Party, and Vive Le Canada, as well as Canadian labor unions. Along with the Green Party, which has taken on the NAU as a major issue, they have created a sufficient stir to awaken a significant portion of the Liberal Party to question the lack of transparency in trilateral negotiations involved in the SPP, despite the fact that their Party’s two previous Prime Ministers are commonly looked upon as the original architects of Canada’s involvement in the original negotiations which precipitated all this, in the signing of the NAFTA Treaty (implemented by PM Jean Chrétien) and the SPP (PM Paul Martin).

Some links to these groups:

http://www.canadians.org/

http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/home.html

http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article/163939368-timeline-of-the-progress-toward-a-north-american-union

http://www.gp.org/press/pr_2007_08_15.shtml

http://www.liberal.ca/search_e.aspx?q=SPP&x=0&y=0

It might be interesting to note that, although the media and government in our country are touting the very idea of a North American Union as right-wing conspiracy paranoia, it is touted by the Canadian government as left-wing paranoia. Politics certainly does make strange bedfellows.

How is it, you might ask, that the Canadians have become so proactive on this issue while the citizens of the United States are still, by and large, totally oblivious? It might well have something to do with a preponderance of the elected representatives and officials of most, if not all, the political parties recognizing the issue and opening dialogues with the citizenry, whether it be for or against. They are not buying into the “nonexistence” or “conspiracy” theories and recognize that the North American Union is a very real possibility, so many resent being left out of the loop by their leadership. The media is also much more attentive to the goings-on than our mainstream media in this country. As you could see from the earlier video, a summit meeting between the Heads of State of Canada, the United States, and Mexico drew national media awareness, and the nation took notice. This is why so much attention has been focused on the SPP/NAU since that meeting took place last year in Canada. Even the potentially conspiratorial nature of the issue is not being ridiculed by the press, as in the incident at the Montebello demonstration where it was alleged that the only attempted violence was perpetrated by three undercover policemen:

There is also something else that we, in this country, have been experiencing for nearly a decade, whereas the Canadians have been spared…a palpable sense of fear, being exacerbated rather than diminished by the solutions offered by our government to address that fear. Homeland Security and the Patriot Act have done little more than appreciably limit the freedoms that had always been a very important part of the American character. The “War Against Terrorism” has taken us into an era of direct conflict which makes the Cold War years pale in comparison. The economy has been manipulated into a state which has actually begun to lead to comparisons to the Weimar Republic (also see “hyperinflation“) in Germany in the years prior to World War II. These enormous distractions could easily turn our attention away from their root cause, which is altering the very nature of our country.

The activities and inner workings of the United States government…CLASSIFIED!

UPDATE: For some reason (perhaps because the video is so telling) the preceding video is “no longer available” when you click on it to play. To summarize, for those who had not yet seen it, it depicted the reading of a Homeland Security bill before Congress to be voted upon at that time (C-SPAN excerpt), and the reactions of the Congressman reading it. Apparently most of the bill was marked “CLASSIFIED,” making the reading a bit difficult. At one point, the gentleman stopped dead in the reading, said “Oh my” with a long, embarrassed pause, and then again said “CLASSIFIED.” Thereupon the bill was announced for the vote, without the Congress having any idea upon that which they were voting. I bet it passed.

UPDATE #2 (11/26/2013):  I found a second copy of that video, being utilized to make a totally different, and more current point (The youtube was actually from more than five years ago but, as you can see from it’s new title, it is now being used to focus on a more current situation…redacted bill being read was, in fact, an appropriations bill for additional funds for Patriot Act activities, although it may well have been for FEMA.).  My description stands, and will remain in the event THIS ONE disappears.

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July 22, 2008 1:23 am - Posted by | North American Union | , , , , , , ,

16 Comments »

  1. The concept of a North American Union is absolutely frightening to me, and I think far more menacing than what has occurred with formation of the European Union. Whereas the European countries have cultural and social differences, I believe (this is opinion) that the economic structure in the European countries is relatively similar, i.e., in each country, there are poor people and there are rich people.

    In the Americas however, the cultural and social differences certainly exist. However, economic structure between the US and Canada on one hand and Mexico on the other is absolutely astounding. The poverty level in the US is more comparable to the “middle class” in Mexico. We simply can not absorb the burden of Mexican poverty, crime and corruption.

    The particularly scarey part however is that I do not see an overall plan that is being orchestrated, but instead, a series of independent plans/actions that are being promoted by politicians, thinking that each is beneficial. In fact, I suppose that individually, some of these “plans” could be beneficial but collectively, they are disastrous.

    Comment by freedom | July 23, 2008 9:50 am | Reply

  2. You’re absolutely correct Freedom, however, the European Union model is very comparable to what is happening here. There are a number of member countries among the EU newer members which have serious economic problems and enormous infrastructure needs (Latvia, Serbia, etc.), principally in the old Eastern block. It might also be interesting to note that the progress toward the establishment of the EU was begun by only 6 nations …a far cry from the current 27. Also, the other Latin American countries have already formed a South American Union:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-brazil25-2008may25,0,2700914.story

    It’s logical to assume that ultimately the two would come together forming a Union of the Americas, or simply an American Union. Something else for us to look forward to. 😦

    Comment by AWCheney | July 23, 2008 10:13 am | Reply

  3. Oh, but despit how you and I feel, can’t you hear it now, all the “benefits”…?

    Just think, no more need for border patrol, no more border crossing checkpoints, no need to have a passport for travel within the Union’s “former countries,” and just imagine all that cheap labor…oh, and afterall, those poor people need our help…and if you’re a Christian, you’ll see that and support it as well.

    Oh, I know, and I am a dissenter too, but it is the argument of “benefit” that will make this issue become palatable to many and “take legs,” destined for reality.

    OK, OK this whole thing needs to be nipped in the bud…but it doesn’t look like our Presidential choices are a lot of help…:(

    Comment by freedom | July 24, 2008 7:11 am | Reply

  4. I’m not even sure of your point…:( …would you like to clarify?

    Comment by freedom | July 26, 2008 9:39 am | Reply

  5. Freedom, the comment(s) to which you are referring were apparently spam. The email addresses were phony and the blog to which the multiple “pseudonyms” linked had a blogroll of spam sites on it, some of which have already shown up in my own spam queue. I don’t know what this person’s motives might have been, but if they were legitimate commentary he wouldn’t have merely thrown out obscure, mysterious quotes to make his point.

    Comment by AWCheney | July 26, 2008 10:04 pm | Reply

  6. Well, isn’t that a shame? We have difficult issues to work through and some see it as inconsequential…something to “fool with.” 😦 😦

    Comment by freedom | July 27, 2008 5:12 pm | Reply

  7. I visited the stopspp.com this evening to learn by the 7/31/08 posting NORTH AMERICAN DREAM ‘DEAD’. Anke, have you seen this one? Robert Pastor himself admits the NAU aka North American Community has been defeated by both sides.

    Comment by linda | August 5, 2008 12:51 am | Reply

  8. I would expect him to say no less, Linda. Consider the reality, however:

    The recent bailout of the mortgage industry, along with the continuation of artificially depressed interest rates as well as a decrease in the “credit number” and an increase in the mortgage amount allowed by FHA, all of which will only serve to reinflate the “housing bubble” so that, when it again bursts, the market (along with homeowners) will crash harder and faster. The irrational, unimpeded spending by our Executive Branch, being enabled by a Federal Reserve Chairman who seems to believe that he can pick up a phone and order the printing of currency on a wing and a prayer (issuing Treasury notes being bought up by foreign interests as fast as they are printed) every time an agency needs some more cash at a time when the unemployment rate is rising and the economy is tanking. The failure of Homeland Security to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws while their funds are being diverted into programs such as the Mérida Initiative which, under the auspices of the “war on drugs,” is being used to control MEXICO’S southern border as well as for the security of several other Latin American countries.

    There are more examples of policies which will be continued under the leadership of either major candidate, neither of whom have an interest in sealing our borders or reducing this unbridled spending which is surely designed to bring the American taxpayer to his knees until he BEGS for a North American Union which will be touted as the savior of our economy. In the meantime they will still be opening our borders further through NASCO, and re-educating our youth through a commitment “…to building a new consciousness, a new way of thinking about one’s neighbors and about the continental agenda.” The European Union didn’t happen overnight, and I guess they’re getting a little nervous that people may no longer be buying into the “paranoid conspiracy theory” explanation for the NAU. It’s time to thicken the fog of complacency which tends to hover over our citizenry when faced with the unimaginable.

    Comment by AWCheney | August 5, 2008 3:01 am | Reply

  9. A Harper majority would be dreadful for Canada. It would threaten the sovereignty of our country.

    Not many Canadians know about the North American Union.

    Canada does not need an American puppet like Stephen Harper.

    Comment by Mike | September 8, 2008 1:32 pm | Reply

  10. At least, Mike, the Canadians are not in denial as they are here, in the U.S. The vast majority of us wouldn’t want an “American puppet” either…historically, that’s never worked out too well for us, now has it.

    Comment by AWCheney | September 8, 2008 9:16 pm | Reply

  11. It’s dreadful that our politicians are keeping this from us AWCheney.

    I hope you don’t mind that I started this thread in the Hubpages political forum to try to inform people? It has a link back to this good article of yours.
    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/7640

    Mike

    Comment by Mike | September 9, 2008 2:48 pm | Reply

  12. I don’t mind at all Mike…on the contrary. As a matter of fact, my whole purpose in broaching the subject of the North American Union from a subjective, research-driven perspective was to shed light upon the subject and try to break through that denial in which the vast majority of people have indulged. It doesn’t do any good, however, if people don’t see the information so I really do appreciate you getting the link out there.

    Comment by AWCheney | September 9, 2008 8:32 pm | Reply

  13. Hi AWCheney

    I have found that the New Democratic Party of Canada “condemns Harper’s push to sell out Canada” with the North American Union.
    http://www.ndp.ca/page/4927

    And the Green Party of Canada does not endorse the Security and Prosperity Partnership or the North American Union.
    http://www.greenparty.ca/en/policy/documents/deeper_look_spp

    The Green Party of Canada also has a petition for Canadians to sign opposing both the Security and Prosperity Partnership or the North American Union that will be sent to Harper, Bush and Calderon.
    https://secure.greenparty.ca/spp.php

    I still have not received a reply from the Liberal Party of Canada after 3 attempts to find their stance regarding the North American Union. Again today I was told that they would get back to me.

    Depending on the Liberal stance, preventing a Harper Conservative majority in Canada on October 14th will derail the North American Union.

    I’ll post again once I find out what the Liberal stance is.

    I also posted this at both my forum and the HubPages forum to try to make readers aware that this coming Canadian election has the chance of derailing the North American Union.
    http://www.earn-cash-make-money-online.com/forum/index.php?topic=1479.0
    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/7640

    Mike

    Comment by Mike | September 26, 2008 2:55 pm | Reply

  14. Sorry Mike…your comment apparently got hung up in spam temporarily. I released it as soon as I saw it.

    From what I can tell, the Canadians still have a chance to fight this thing at the ballot box. We might not be so lucky. My research indicates that, during the Bush Administration, the Executive Branch has managed to parlay the Patriot Act into unprecedented control of the government, effectively side-stepping our system of governmental checks and balances in far too many areas. Once power falls into the hands of the bureaucrats, it’s virtually impossible snatch it away again.

    Comment by AWCheney | September 26, 2008 6:54 pm | Reply

  15. Hi AWCheney

    I found out the the Liberals would not endorse the North American Union. I posted a reply from them on my Hub.

    Harper’s Conservatives got another minority government yesterday. So that should stop the North American Union for another term. I think.

    Mike

    Comment by Mike | October 15, 2008 2:43 pm | Reply

  16. The Superhighway will be used to transport freight from China into the United States. Chinese imports will be received at Mexican sea ports where they will be inspected by Mexican Customs Agents who are low-paid and CARE NOTHING ABOUT AMERICAN SECURITY. The Superhighway will allow terrorists and drug-dealers to move freely to the north of the border, and jobs will be shipped to the south.

    Comment by Catalina Riddle | January 22, 2013 11:51 pm | Reply


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